The Downward Spiral

so very many things wrong with this… but it seems popular..

A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the
students, “Let me explain the problem science has with religion.” The
atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks
one of his new students to stand.

“You’re a Christian, aren’t you, son?”

“Yes sir,” the student says.

“So you believe in God?”

“Absolutely.”

“Is God good?”

“Sure! God’s good.”

“Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?”

“Yes.”

“Are you good or evil?”

“The Bible says I’m evil.”

The professor grins knowingly. “Aha! The Bible!” He considers for a
moment. “Here’s one for you. Let’s say there’s a sick person over
here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would
you try?”

“Yes sir, I would.”

“So you’re good…!”

“I wouldn’t say that.”

“But why not say that? You’d help a sick and maimed person if you
could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn’t.”

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. “He doesn’t,
does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though
he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you
answer that one?”

The student remains silent.

“No, you can’t, can you?” the professor says. He takes a sip of water
from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
“Let’s start again, young fella. Is God good?”

“Er…yes,” the student says.

“Is Satan good?”

The student doesn’t hesitate on this one. “No.”

“Then where does Satan come from?”

The student falters. “From God”

“That’s right. God made Satan, didn’t he? Tell me, son. Is there evil
in this world?”

“Yes, sir.”

“Evil’s everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything, correct?”

“Yes.”

“So who created evil?” The professor continued, “If God created
everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according
to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.”

Again, the student has no answer. “Is there sickness? Immorality?
Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this
world?”

The student squirms on his feet. “Yes.”

“So who created them?”

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his
question. “Who created them?” There is still no answer. Suddenly the
lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is
mesmerized. “Tell me,” he continues onto another student. “Do you
believe in Jesus Christ, son?”

The student’s voice betrays him and cracks. “Yes, professor, I do.”

The old man stops pacing. “Science says you have five senses you use
to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen
Jesus?”

“No sir. I’ve never seen Him.”

“Then tell us if you’ve ever heard your Jesus?”

“No, sir, I have not.”

“Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your
Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or
God for that matter?”

“No, sir, I’m afraid I haven’t.”

“Yet you still believe in him?”

“Yes.”

“According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable
protocol, science says your God doesn’t exist. What do you say to
that, son?”

“Nothing,” the student replies. “I only have my faith.”

“Yes, faith,” the professor repeats. “And that is the problem science
has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.”

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of
His own. “Professor, is there such thing as heat?”

“Yes,” the professor replies. “There’s heat.”

“And is there such a thing as cold?”

“Yes, son, there’s cold too.”

“No sir, there isn’t.”

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The
room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. “You
can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat,
unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don’t
have anything called ‘cold’. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero,
which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no
such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the
lowest -458 degrees.”

“Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or
transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or
transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat.
You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of
heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units
because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just
the absence of it.”

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom,
sounding like a hammer.

“What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?”

“Yes,” the professor replies without hesitation. “What is night if it
isn’t darkness?”

“You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the
absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright
light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have
nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it? That’s the meaning we use
to define the word.”

“In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were, you would be able to make
darkness darker, wouldn’t you?”

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This
will be a good semester. “So what point are you making, young man?”

“Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to
start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.”

The professor’s face cannot hide his surprise this time. “Flawed? Can
you explain how?”

“You are working on the premise of duality,” the student
explains. “You argue that there is life and then there’s death; a
good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as
something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can’t even
explain a thought.”

“It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less
fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is
to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive
thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.”

“Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved
from a monkey?”

“If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man,
yes, of course I do.”

“Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?”

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes
where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

“Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and
cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you
not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a
preacher?”

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the
commotion has subsided.

“To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student,
let me give you an example of what I mean.”

The student looks around the room. “Is there anyone in the class who
has ever seen the professor’s brain?” The class breaks out into
laughter.

“Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor’s brain, felt
the professor’s brain, touched or smelt the professor’s brain? No one
appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of
empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have
no brain, with all due respect, sir.”

“So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your
lectures, sir?”

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his
face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. “I guess
you’ll have to take them on faith.”

“Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with
life,” the student continues. “Now, sir, is there such a thing as
evil?”

Now uncertain, the professor responds, “Of course, there is. We see
it everyday. It is in the daily example of man’s inhumanity to man.
It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world.
These manifestations are nothing else but evil.”

To this the student replied, “Evil does not exist sir, or at least it
does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is
just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe
the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of
what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart.
It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness
that comes when there is no light.”

The professor sat down.

my response: light exists, heat exists, brains exist.. the same is not so easily demonstrated about any sort of deity.. in fact.. you can’t demonstrate anything about something that “cannot be measured” as this “genius” student points out that his concept of God is.. read Kirkegaard (also, I want a / in the O in my name )

ya.. see.. setting up a straw man “atheist professor” like this is also a logical fallacy.. you can’t make up this dualist arguing atheist and take him seriously.. so when you “defeat” your construct that you set up to defeat, you win.. but an empty victory.. kinda like drawing yourself a maze and then “beating it” .. wow.. awesome!  It doesn’t make you right.. it makes you silly.

pink unicorns fly at midnight… also.. flibberty flabberty flooo!!!

… that’s my argument.. makes a little more sense too.

Huge day for the 2nd Amendment.  The Supreme Court has ruled (finally) on exactly what the 2nd Amendment means with regard to personal ownership of fire arms.  It is very clear.  This is history right here folks.

I’ll attach the PDF to this.. but it’s also found here.

Right to Bear Arms — Supreme Court — 2008-06-28

There are lots of ways of being miserable, but there’s only one way of being comfortable, and that is to stop running round after happiness. If you make up your mind not to be happy there’s no reason why you shouldn’t have a fairly good time.
  – Edith Wharton

I haven’t written out what all I am for awhile.. Capricorn with leo moon/rising.. here’s the overview of what that is from this site that seems to give a pretty thorough view of little old .. ole (me).  The funny thing is to read these things and it seems like that they oppose.. and then I remember there’s on example.. me.. that this all makes so much sense with, taken together.

Sun in Capricorn
Capricorn is a feet-on-the-ground, eye-on-the-prize sign. Those with Sun in Capricorn have a realistic, grounded approach to life that can be seen no matter how dreamy the rest of the birth chart suggests. These people know how to do things, and to get things done.

Some Capricorns naturally turn their backs on things they deem too frivolous. They are very much concerned with things that are worthwhile—and that includes their own lives. Capricorns want to do and be something worthwhile. Like their Earth signs relatives, Taurus and Virgo, they need to feel useful and effective in the real world in order to be satisfied with their lives. But the Capricorn spin on the earth signs is that Capricorn possesses a stronger need for recognition in a worldly sense. They have a strong sense of society and its framework, and they feel most secure when they feel they are doing their part within that framework.

Capricorns like to pare things down, and take pleasure in the simple things in life. However, many are attracted to status symbols and these ones will wear the best clothes (tasteful ones!) and drive quietly impressive cars.

Comparing Capricorns to their symbol, the goat, brings up some interesting analogies. Solar Capricorns can see into the future, and plan for it. They don’t mind taking things slowly, but they absolutely aim to get to the top of the mountain in life! They make their way steadily and sure-footedly; and their strength and singleness of purpose are admirable.

Capricorns can sometimes be rather lonely people, although they rarely let it show. They are often a little reserved—even standoffish. This is generally because they value all things practical, and they’ll seldom wear their emotions on their sleeves, unless they have a particularly flamboyant Moon sign.

This is a sign that is surely the most resourceful of the zodiac. To some, Capricorns come across as unimaginative, but they can be enormously creative when it comes to the material world. They are generally very capable people with a strong sense of tradition and responsibility.

Many Capricorns have mastered the art of making people laugh. Their sense of humor can be of the deadpan variety—they’re generally excellent at keeping a straight face. They can be bitingly sarcastic, too.

Capricorns are not known for taking too many risks in life. They value the beaten track and things “tried and true”. This is not to say they are stick-in-the-muds — they simply value the hard work laid down by those who’ve been around before them.

Turn to your Capricorn friends for help when you need to really get things done. They’ll have practical advice, and they’ll help you organize and manage your life a little better. Capricorns are generally good with their “word”, dependable, and rather loyal people.

Moon in Leo
Depending on other positions in the chart, Moon in Leo people are not necessarily “outgoing.” When they feel comfortable, they do like being the center of attention. That is, they like being in the “spotlight” in the comfort of their own homes and with family and friends. They enjoy entertaining others, and often take on the role of comic.

Lunar Leos often feel a need to organize, and even control, their families and friends. They have an inner mission to set things right, and generally like to oversee the goings-on in their little circle.

This is a rather creative position of the Moon. At the very least, Moon in Leo people want to create and entertain. They can be rather lazy at times, and a little bossy too. Generally, though, they have a deep need to treat others fairly and justly.

Lunar Leos require lots and lots of love and care in order to function well in the world. When they feel slighted, these people can be dramatic in their emotional displays. When their pride has been hurt, they are given to big scenes and sulking. This rarely happens in public, however. Lunar Leos are far too concerned about their image to make splashy scenes outside the comfort of their own homes. In public, they prefer to take things in dignified ways. At home, however, they’re given to big displays of emotional drama. These scenes generally don’t last too long, however. Lunar Leos are often personally popular folk who are valued for their integrity and strong sense of justice.

Generally, it is easy to reason with a Lunar Lion. Appealing to their well-developed sense of fairness usually works (very) well.

Leo Rising
Leo rising people cannot help but be noticed. They radiate a special energy and magnetism that gets others’ attention. Sometimes it’s because they are loud people who pay a lot of attention to their personal appearance (especially their hair!); other times it’s due to a regal manner that simply demands interest from others.

Leo Ascendant people are very self-aware and body-conscious. They are acutely aware of others, and how they come across. In fact, these people are especially aware of their personal “backdrop”—they consider what the people they’re with, and the environments they are in, do to their own image. Often, Leo rising natives feel as if they are on stage, even in the privacy of their own homes!

They are given to rash decisions, temper tantrums, and excesses. However, they have plenty of staying power, drive, and their idealism keeps them from getting into too much trouble. The desire to oversee the goings-on in their circle can sometimes amount to bossiness. If this desire doesn’t go too far, however, it can just mean a person who wants to make sure the people they love are all right. Many Leo rising people are managers, either by profession or character.

The tendency to overestimate things, and themselves, is generally present. This is due to a natural enthusiasm and optimism about any new undertaking. Sometimes, they are walking commercials. In fact, Leo rising people make excellent promoters.

Leo rising people are generally demonstrative, and given to grand gestures. Drama comes naturally to these natives. In fact, some are so caught up in fiction, they’re a little blind to fact (yep!). They have an unusual need to be admired.

Leo Ascendants often have a strong physical constitution. They pay special attention to their personal appearance and mannerisms. Usually, they choose clothing and hairstyles that are youthful. Their manner is authoritarian and strong.

No matter their age in real-world terms, Leo rising people are kids at heart. They are fun-loving and warm; generous and spirited.

Just how magnanimous and outgoing a Leo rising individual is will be modified by the placement of the Sun by sign and house. This is because the ruling planet of a Leo Ascendant is the Sun. For example, a Leo rising person with Sun in Virgo may not come across as strongly as a Leo rising person with Sun in Aries. No matter the placement of the Sun, however, Leo rising natives are quite self-aware and optimistic. They have a natural flair for presentation, an eye for quality, and a hard-to-resist warmth of style. They want to make things happen, and create a stir. More on Leo Rising.

Steven is my kinda guy

Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule.
  – Stephen King

I just took 2 and they tell me I’m either a 125 at iqtest.com and 135 at tickle.com.. wikipedia says that puts me 1 away from genius. so.. there’s not way I’m that smart… there just isn’t… sometimes I’d forget my head if it wasn’t attached…. and I think I’ve met some truely gifted people in my life, and .. well without being able to give any specific exmaples.. more just like feelings… that I’m not one of them.

so then I was thinking that these must be majorly skewed toward kinda “higher” functions.. well like more abtract kinds of things… I think I’m pretty good at spotting patterns (in words, numbers, etc) and spatial reasoning… those seemed to be most everything on there… I wonder if IQ is just that?  I bet it doesn’t aim to be .. but certainly seems like it is.

but.. that doesn’t really make me “intelligent” I don’t think. Being able to solve problems and overcome challenges in immediate, effective, lasting, and non-self destructive ways is what I think being intelligent is… and not “Jill is taller than Jack… Jack is dead… who is taller?” sorts of problems either.

I mean I can’t say I have any real problems in my life… nothing that I can’t handle… but then again I think there is an entire socio/economic thing going on there too…

so ya I dunno about this.. something that I wonder about every few years… I’d love to get people that I think are really smart to do IQ tests, but I’m afraid I would offend them… and of course people that score lower than me would feel bad… so that sucks too.

… somethin…

Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be.
– William Hazlitt

http://xkcd.com/c103.html

so funny

http://xkcd.com/c169.html

As most people know, I kinda ignore world happening stuff until it actually hits me in the face, but Saddam Hussein got hung… or was hanged… been thinking about that all day… which is right? .. was hung or was hanged… dunno… anyway… his ass was lynched on Saturday.

Shit you can even watch it online
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521

so that’s what I got.